Old Man of the Sea -- Part 1

                                       OLD MAN of the SEA -- Part 1


This was written nearly two years ago but it is the first time appearing here. This is Part ! of several in this series from an interview.

Old Man of the Sea (Part one)

  Before I begin this message, I want to ask you a question. It is some time before
Christmas. Will you greet people with "merry Christmas", or "happy holidays"? Give
it serious thought. What better way to offer a "soft" witness?

  Sometimes things seem to come about through coincidences, but I'm a firm
believer that these occasions are orchestrated by God. Recently I had the
opportunity to dwell on the subjects of religion, culture, history and business
with someone who had this lifetime experience through just short of 100 years.
Getting this information face-to-face from a person who didn't have to read it
in a history or other book, who had LIVED through it, was fantastic. Better yet,
I could ask questions.

  There will be direct references to scripture as it may apply throughout, so
don't think this is simply a personal historical travelogue. I will not interrupt his
story except when I ask a specific question. Subjects will not be addressed
chronologically for the most part, and be certain to check out the scripture
references.

  Pastor: You have been a man of the bible for many years?
  Old Man of the Sea: Most of my life. We had a big family bible written in German.
I learned enough German to speak it, but it was hard to read it in the bible because
the printing wasn't like English. I got myself a small bible in English I could carry in
a pocket if I wanted to. As I got older, and very busy, I always read scripture every
night before I went to bed.

  Pastor: Was the bible and church very important during your early years?
  Old Man of the Sea: We lived on a farm several miles from town and the location
of the family church. Those were horse and buggy days, and sometimes my folks
had to decide between taking a day to town to sell our produce or going to church.
We had a big family, and needed the money from things like milk, eggs, meat and
produce in season. My mother would get out the big family bible on the weeks we
didn't go to church.

  Pastor: So you didn't receive much bible instruction from a pastor or teacher?
  Old Man of the Sea: We called them preachers in those days. No, I didn't get
much teaching from anyone, really. My Dad told me God could work miracles. I
saw things happen sometimes that were hard to believe, and Dad always said God
was working and people better watch out.

  Pastor: Did your family pray often?
  Old Man of the Sea: As a family we did. I had older brothers and sisters who
were already out on their own when I was little.  My mother always quoted
Matt. 18:20 "For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am
there in the midst of them." Whenever there was a problem or need, there would
be prayer. We kind of had our own little church.

  Pastor: Do you think there was a different value of morals in those days?
  Old Man of the Sea: We lived in a rural, small town area. Today people would
say we lived in the sticks. I don't believe good and evil change much, but there
was a strong Christian moral value in much of that rural area, much more than
I can see anywhere today. There was also a strong sorta backlash against
people who seemed to flaunt being bad. Young people weren't so taken with
sex. There was more of a courtship attitude. Girls were more modest, and boys
more respectful. We weren't all angels, but we were held to a much higher
standard than today's kids.

  Pastor: What about jobs and business? Did the average person give much
thought to the actions of business or employers?
  Old Man of the Sea: Just about everybody wanted a job. Of course married
women mostly were housewives. That didn't change much til after World War II.
Pay for young women was pretty bad. Many quit school and went to work to
help support their family. Same with the boys. Most jobs in those days were
for unskilled labor. Lots of kids from the country had to walk to town every day
to their jobs. Hours were long and there were no benefits. The stores were
more honest. Most were small businesses and the owners knew most of
their customers.

  Pastor: There weren't any labor unions, no welfare as we know it, no
unemployment and no social security. What happened to the people who
worked all their lives but couldn't save up for retirement?
  Old Man of the Sea:  Ever hear of the Poorhouse? Local government came
up with the solution through creating "poorhouses". That was a type of
residence maintained by the county for people with no income. In those days
families were stronger, with grandparents and poorer relatives depending on
the family for survival. It was mother, father, kids, grandparents and maybe an
aunt or uncle living together.

  Pastor: Was that true in cities, too?
  Old Man of the Sea: I don't know much about that, but when we visited relatives
in the city, it was the same. They were more crowded, but seemed to have about
the same security as we did. The Christians I knew in that era believed in the
family structure taught by God's Chosen, the Jews. Families mostly took care of
their own. There was some discrimination against divorced women. In those
days divorce was really frowned on, and those women had a really hard time.

  Pastor: What about big business? Did the average person have much
knowledge about big business and its leaders?
  Old Man of the Sea: Nothing like today. There wasn't much information for us
because there was no television, no "national" newspapers, few magazines
with anything, no national radio networks or mass media on it. What we thought
about it was that it was far beyond our ability to do anything about it. We just
hoped there would be jobs and enough wages to live on. We hoped the big
money men would heed scripture as we prayed. Deut. 25:4 "You shall not
muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain." Luke 10:7 "And remain in the same
house, eating and drinking such things as they give, for the laborer is worthy
of his wages." and I Tim.5:18 "For the Scripture says, 'You shall not muzzle an
ox while it treads out the grain', and ' The laborer is worthy of his wages". For
the most part, that didn't happen. Wages kept most of us at or below what is
termed the poverty level. There was no such thing as workers' rights, no sick
benefits, no job seniority. If you got old and slowed up, you were out. If you
got hurt, you were out. Without a family or church you were in bad shape.
The bigshots were bottom liners, as you call it today,and weren't beyond
cheating big time to swindle you out of money.

  Pastor: How do you mean swindle you out of money?
  Old Man of the Sea: I can give you a sample, if you want, but there never was
any legal proof. Like today, the poor couldn't afford a lawyer, and lawyers'
reputations weren't very good back then, either.

  Pastor: By all means, tell us about it.
  Old Man of the Sea: This family owned a decent sized farm in the gas and oil
drilling area. Most of western Pennsylvania was the hot sport of drilling at the
time, and there was big money in it. As a young man I worked in that area until
I was hurt and had to have an operation on my back. It was hard and dangerous
work and rough work. Anyway, this farm was in an area where speculators were
leasing property. The owner of the local town's largest industry asked this family
if he could see their deed so he could get an idea of the land's location. The
family gave him a copy of the deed, and he took it with him to read. When he
returned it later, they didn't examine it closely. After a short time they were told,
by a lawyer, of course, that the mineral rights to their property was not on the
deed. Those rights were now the property of the bigshot. None of their kids were
old enough to investigate, and the husband and wife were not very well
educated, so they did nothing. A later generation did check the courthouse, but
there wasn't any legal trail to follow. The landowners had long since died. From
what the old timers told me, this happened a lot.

  Pastor: I understand the leases that were written didn't give property owners
very much.
  Old Man of the Sea: That's right. Of course it's only been the past few years
that property owners have received a fair shake. Up until then, gas and oil
companies only paid 5$ or 10$ an acre for a lease.

  Pastor: I want to talk to you more about modern drilling, but we're getting away
from the main thrust of this interview, which is the bible and Christianity.

  (To be continued)

THE QUESTION

 THE QUESTION

    "Why are so many good people having problems and difficulties in every
day living now?" That's the question that seems to pop up with most people
I talk to recently. It's a tough question, but there is an answer. Unless you
have considerable financial resources or enjoy good health, the nasty bug
seems to be working overtime.

    I do have the answer, but the path you have to take to get there requires
some serious study. When I entered college, I was a pre-law candidate. As
such, I was prepared to dig in to the field of history. That is one of my favorite
fields of study. The United States is founded on laws, and legal matters are
based on the history of reason and decisions of interpretation and 
understanding of previous situations (cases).

    But, we have to take a further look at history, predating the United States,
Europe and Asia, to learn from the many decisions of culture and religion. There
is a statement that man repeats mistakes when he doesn't learn from previous
mistakes and experiences. History bears that out. We need to be as certain
as possible that our history records are accurate.

    In my study of history, I found some of the most accurate physical evidence
of authenticity in the bible. We have found evidence of such historical items as
chariot wheels in the area of the Red Sea crossing, locations of major ancient
cities, artifacts and manuscripts. This evidence ties in nicely with the historical
writings of many historians, past and present. There is an added gem in using
the bible as a historical reference, because we can see what the future has in
store for us through prophecy.

     Prophecy does not give us a particular day, hour or year for most things, but
it does give us an idea of certain eras of time. To attempt to boil down such
information, it is necessary to do some intensive study of scripture. No one who
has ever read scripture has ever said it's an easy study, except, of course, those
who lack basic intelligence.
    
    To provide a foundation to build the answer to the "Question", I will quote some
scripture, using both the Old and New Testaments. You may note the important
directions are usually repeated three or more times. Just as an aside to get you
thinking, do you wonder why more and more professing Christians do not know
the two most important Christian rules? Christ said His Eleventh Commandment
was only second to the First Commandment. It is "love thy neighbor as thyself".
(John 31:34) We are living in an era where loving your neighbor is missing.

    What I hear so many Christians saying has no love in it. They are pushing
only those issues that enrich themselves and treat others less fortunate than
themselves the same uncaring way you find in the Parable of the Good Samaritan.
It would be amusing rather than tragic if these "Christians" actually had any idea
of their total lack and practice of Christ's teaching.

    To begin our historical foundation, we latch onto the beginning of Christianity, with
the prophecy of His coming. Isaiah wrote (roughly 600B.C.), in 9:6, "For unto us a 
child is born, Unto us a son is given; and the government will be upon His shoulder.
And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father,
Prince of Peace." For our second look at prophecy, go to Zech. 9:9. "Rejoice greatly,
O daughter of Zion! Shout, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your King is coming
to you; He is just and having salvation." Note that forecast of salvation!

    Now to the New Testament, and Luke 1:32, 33. "He will be great, and will be called
the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David."
There are three prophecies many years apart and prior to Christ's birth. This prophecy
is true. History reinforces that Christ lived and died, rising for our redemption. If you
dispute Christianity, that's your decision. But look at what follows from scripture if
you want to know what's happening now.

    The Thessalonians were concerned about the second coming of Christ, and
Paul explained certain things had to occur before Christ would return. (Silvanus and 
Timothy were with Paul). 2 Thes. 2:3, "Let no one deceive you by any means; for
that day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is
revealed, the son of perdition," There is always a certain amount of "falling away",
but apostasy has increased by leaps and bounds in the past 50 years. Here are
some examples:

    Many thousands of "Christians" have joined the recently created new domination
that has bound Christians with Muslims. Chrislam has both Christians and Muslims
sharing the same pew, with both the bible and Koran. Muslims do not recognize
Christ as the Son of God, and belief of the divinity of Christ is called "shirk" by the
Muslims. The word means "filth". How can any Christian share Islam? The Muslims
worship Allah, not God, and their Koran calls for the death of anyone not converting
to Islam. Now, that's falling away, and there are many mega churches already
embracing Chrislam.

    Also joining in the falling away movement is the movement known as the New
Apostolic Reformation. It is a methodology of spiritual warfare and theocratic
domination. Quite a number of our wannabe leaders belong to this group, who
have a "seven mountain" platform that features total control of business, the media,
government, arts and entertainment, education, family and religion. There is a lot
more to this dangerous group which includes some elected leaders, such as
governors. Territories and leaders are already established. They are revisionists,
and although they claim to be Christians, they follow their own agenda, and not
Christ's.

    Speaking of revisionists, we can look at the Lutheran church. It is split, with one
branch following scripture, and the other branch actually rewriting some of the bible
to accommodate their ideas. Several denominations have defied Rev. 22:18, 19,
which states, "For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the  prophecy of this
book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written
in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy,
God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the
things which are written in this book." When people who claim to be believers jump
into quoting scripture, they usually are not committed, and they join the billions of
"believers", who also include Satan. Be careful of who you follow.

    The apostate teaching is alive and well in many independent churches. Many of
the pastors attend a "short course" to become a pastor, and only teach what they
have learned at the school. I have yet to see one that actually knows anything
about scripture, and they are ignorant of spiritual things. One more scriptural
historical quote, and we find the answer to the Question. If this is boring you,
remember you don't learn the important stuff in school without studying and practice.

     Go now to Matt. 13:3, another parable. These were given to make you think
and try to understand. Do not get fooled by the introduction to this parable, as
you were probably fooled by the Parable of Talents. Neither is about money, sad
to tell wannabe leaders who covet even more financial riches. Matt. 13:3,8 "Behold,
a sower went out to sow. And as he sowed, some seed fell by the wayside; and the
birds came and devoured them. Some fell on stony places, where they did not have
much earth; and they immediately sprang up because they had no depth of earth,
But when the sun was up they were scorched, and because they had no root they withered
away. And some fell among thorns, and the thorns sprang up  and choked them. But
others fell on good ground and yielded a crop: some a hundredfold, some sixty, some 
thirty."

    Here we finally see the answer to the Question. The "falling away" occurs before
Christ returns. If you are interested in the End Times Prophecy, this is for you. The
seed that is scattered is the Word of God. If you attend a church, you can probably
identify those "believers" who are on the wayside and watch birds devour the seeds.
Perhaps you can identify those who receive the seeds as "stony", and who do not
have much earth (interest or understanding). As soon as they "get heat in the
kitchen", they cant take it, and having no root in the Word, they fall away. Some seed
fell among thorns and were choked. This is for "believers" who keep the wrong
company and join in things such as drunken parties or drugs.

    But, be of cheer, because if you are one of good ground in the Word, you will
yield a crop for the Lord, and it won't be money. The crops here are the result of
the same talents in the other parable. They are called heavenly rewards that will
be waiting for your arrival in heaven. Almost everybody has the talent for witnessing
if they are really saved. There are dozens of other talents, and you can find them
in the New Testament. 

    People now are living in the era of "falling away". There are so many fakers and
so many organizations of apostate teachers that it is difficult to recommend any
domination or church. Satan has a very good plan, and except for Christ's return,
he would win. This falling away is, at the least, the prelude to the period of
tribulation. You see and hear of the terrible persecution and slaughter of people
all over the world--some in America, too. You have a choice of being a "good
earth" Christian or one of the pretenders. Those who fail the test of the sower
will miss the Rapture. They will be among the many who will have to go through
phase two of the tribulation. At that time it appears people will have to choose
between accepting the apostate religions and false leaders, or face torture and
death. 

    We all have a choice. This message is based on scripture--lots of it. If you
disagree with me, it is not my problem. I only write what the Holy Spirit gives
me. Christ tells us to open our eyes and ears. He tells us to open our mouths
to accept Him as Savior. Simple and easy instructions if you aren't "full of
yourself". 

Rev. Walbear


(The picture is from the Christian's journey, Pilgrim's Progress written by John Bunyan)

ONE TIME DEAL

                         ONE TIME DEAL 

It's the Easter season once again, and for the youngsters that means the Easter Bunny, colored eggs, and all kinds of candy. Some families also hide the Easter baskets of goodies, which is lots of fun. There's nothing wrong with this, but the Christian Easter story must also be presented. Every child should have the opportunity to understand what Easter is all about.

How about you? Is Easter a one time deal for you? Did you accept Christ as your Savior? Really? Then I presume you also listened to preachers who told you to live a decent life, beginning with the Ten Commandments. If you were sincere in your commitment, you also should know you must study scripture
apart from church services. If you don't, how will you know Christ's teaching?

Was your commitment a ONE TIME DEAL? How long did it take you to get the promise of eternal life? Think about how long Christ spent in agony on the cross. Lots longer for Him than you spent on the commitment, right? It was so easy for you, so difficult for Him. Do you think He gave us all that teaching and direction to sit there in a book you don't need to study? Tell me one secular subject where you tell a professor you will be part of his/her class and then don't bother to study the subject book.

Do you believe you can do this and graduate with some basic knowledge of the subject? You can buy a diploma--even a piece of paper stating you are a preacher--but you must earn a real diploma through an organized study program. You may find a very gifted preacher you think doesn't need any study, but if he/she
is real, you will find he/she spends many hours studying scripture. No matter how brilliant we think we are, we can never learn all of scripture or even understand
some of it.

There is much important teaching in the New Testament, beginning with the very words of Christ, but continuing through the teaching of the writers of the other New Testament books. If you don't learn from this teaching, your words of commitment ring hollow. In all probability, you have not fulfilled your acceptance
of Christ's gift because you HAVE NOT OPENED the package (gift) He offered you. The words of acceptance have become much like the many oaths people freely state today, ranging from marriage, to support of our Constitution. I was amazed to see newly elected representatives and senators take the oath of office to support our Constitution and then almost immediately vote on an issue that
was against that document. They obviously don't know much about the constitution, and probably even less about scripture. In fact, almost every one of these newly elected people have misinterpreted plain English.

Getting back to scripture, you need to understand Christs teaching and His use of parables. I hear so many supposedly devout Christians use a parable to push an individual point across. They usually are totally off base, but their presentation
is good and supports a popular line of thought, so others are taken in. When I have used the exact words of scripture to point out their misrepresentation, I have been accused of "twisting" the words. Mind you, I used the exact words of scripture, with none of my own and no opinion. 

If you were serious when you accepted His gift, you should by now understand some of His teaching. Let's look at specific parts of His teaching in scripture, and you can score yourself. I'm not the judge of whose salvation commitment actually "took", but if you're honest with yourself, you should 'fess up to the requirements
of graduation.

We'll begin our review of Christ's lessons with a parable I'm certain you must have read and enjoyed many times--assuming you regularly read scripture. Look at Luke 10:25-37. This parable is also found in Matt. 22:34-40, and Mark 12:28-34. Since the
teaching is given us three times, don't you believe Christ stressed the importance of the subject? You had better go back and examine the other parables, too.

We have a man traveling who is robbed and beaten to the point of death. Any person you come upon is your neighbor, not just someone who lives in the same area as you. Look around. Those you see are your neighbors, when in a store or on the street. Now, we get to the meat of this parable. The first person to come
upon the victim is a priest. This "man of God" passes the victim by. He is probably not from the priest's synagogue (church or denomination), the priest decides, and a priests' job is not to be a doctor. Therefore, this situation means nothing to him.
So much for a "person of faith".

Next we have a Levite coming upon the victim. The Levite is to an Israelite as a Baptist, Lutheran, Catholic or any denomination of Christianity is to a Christian. He, as are we, is supposed to follow the dictation of our principles, and not to follow divisions within his "faith". The victim is a stranger, and the Levite isn't about to
waste time or money on someone who may be of another "faith". Worse yet, this stranger no longer has any money. If the Levite had to spend his own money, his fellow Levites might call him a socialist!

Before we go on--if you have the stomach for this--I want to tell a bit about that term "faith". I hear the word tossed around freely by all sorts of people who have very little, if any, knowledge of what the term stands for. They claim it stands for belief in God and a commitment to Christ. I am very disappointed in their free use
of the term. Our outreach ministry is Faith Tracks. To that end, we published a book, especially suited to children, dealing in the way God works for those who don't just "believe", but also have made the connection to Christ. The young and unspoiled are much easier to teach Christ's way than you probably are. So, when I hear about "faith based" believers, especially politicians, I want to know the
evidence of their faith. More about this in another parable.

Now we come to a Samaritan. This is not an Israelite, he is someone with different religious convictions. He is not a priest or church leader, does not know the victim, and does not "owe" the victim any type of help. EXCEPT, he knows what a neighbor is--a fellow human--and his personal instinct is to do good,
especially when it may cost him time and MONEY! You see, his personal instinct of good and bad was superior to the two persons of "faith". To them, time and money (their main concerns) far outweighed being a fellow human (neighbor) They were not going to spend their money--or worse yet--tax payer dollars to help
someone in need. 

Now, it has been really easy to enjoy this parable up to this point. But when you finally see what Christ is trying to teach, the parable becomes uncomfortable. Why should you lose hard earned cash or delay that important appointment? Or have you considered that anything you earn or any business success comes directly
from God? It's really not yours, my friend. And Christ, in this parable, is telling you straight out what your role as a neighbor is. Not only did the good Samaritan give his neighbor immediate care, but provided for his continuing care until his health was restored.

Go ahead, and brush me off. Just remember this Easter season that Christ gave everything He had for you. Most importantly, He left you with a priceless gift-- the free gift (for you) of eternal life. That's care from the beginning to eternity. He expects you to do for others, including some bums and lazy people, because you aren't the judge of these people. If God has blessed you, he expects you to bless others. We can express our gratitude on Easter for Christ's sacrifice, but it rings hollow when we use the word "faith" and offer excuses for not being like the good Samaritan. The term Christ used was "mercy". Look it up.

Rev. Walbear

TIME TO CHECK THE FACTS

TIME TO CHECK THE FACTS

I've heard so much incorrect use of scripture and accompanying misinformation
that it's time to examine these claims and provide some truth. To find the truth,
you must study--not just read--scripture. Pity poor pastors who are given 15-20
minutes to try and teach you scripture. This message is to all who will read it, but
especially to conservative Christians. No opinions here, just scripture, the very 
Word of God. You are very encouraged to check the scripture I quote in either the
Protestant or Catholic bibles.

Are you saved? Only God knows. Do you believe in both the Old and New
Testaments? If you are a New Testament Church member, you better go back
and look at the Old Testament. That's where sin began, and Christ often referred
to in his teaching. I'm an ordained Baptist minister, not a card-carrying preacher
with a dime store card. That's why I want to set some things straight based on the
foundation of scripture.

There are so many subjects I need to discuss, but I will concentrate on sin
because so many high profile people are making continuous claims based on
the bible, and usually these people are dead wrong. The fact that what they say
supports an issue you have already formed an opinion on, concludes the issue
in your mind. You don't check for all the facts. And, that is the major problem
with conservatives.

Do you know where sin started and how encompassing it is? You say, with
Adam and Eve. Old Testament and correct. But did you notice how every person
in the world is a victim of sin? Remember John 3:16, where it states that God
so loved the world He gave His only begotten Son to provide salvation? To
understand the presence of sin in people, we have to start with children. 

Go to Romans 5:12, "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world,
and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned."
To make this point more clear, go to Romans 5:18. "Therefore, as by the offense
of one, judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the 
righteousness of one, the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life."
Now study those scriptures again if you don't understand what they say, I'll
make it easy for you. Every person--no matter any religious affiliation--is a
sinner the moment they are conceived. They are born with a sin nature, and
thus are guilty and will require salvation. Hard to swallow that little babies are
sinners? Read those verses of Romans again, and then go back to Genesis to
see this information confirmed where you surely must have read it previously.

Now, let's go to Mark 10:13-15. "Then they brought little children to Him, that
He might touch them; but the disciples rebuked those that brought them. But when
Jesus saw it, He was greatly displeased and said to them, 'Let the little children
come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of God. Assuredly,
I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child will by
no means enter it.'" Here you probably think you have disproved what I've written
so far. I am pleased to tell you, you have only displayed a lack of knowledge in
two things.

First, how do you receive salvation? You commit yourself to Jesus and you are
BORN AGAIN. The kingdom of God is Christ's kingdom. When you are born again,
you are as a little child, not spiritually mature and, indeed, an adult version of the
little child. If you thought otherwise, back up to where He says "whoever does not 
receive the kingdom of God as a little child will by no means enter it." Your lack of
reading comprehension would then conclude you must receive salvation while a
child or you could not receive it. I pray by now the light is going on for you. Christ
did not say children were free of the sin nature beginning with Adam and
throughout the history of mankind. An abortion to protect the mother's health is
not murder. Remember the word murder, which will be the subject a bit later in
this sermon.

Now, if you've recovered from your misunderstanding of when sin begins, lets
look at more ignorance. You may recall that the Son of God was also a Jew. In
his life on earth, he practiced His culture, the Jewish culture. He observed the
Jewish "special days". In speaking in scripture as quoted above in Romans and
Mark, He was speaking to Jews. They all knew that Jewish culture clearly
taught that boys and girls were children and NOT ACCOUNTABLE for their
childish sins until they completed religious instruction and were considered 
adults. The age for girls was 12 years and one month. For boys it was 13 years
and one month. So you think this is a bunch of Jewry hooey? God gave His
people those instructions just as He gave them the Ten Commandments. Now
you are picking and choosing as mankind usually does to suit his agenda. God
gave His Chosen many "laws" or directives in the Torah, which governed their
culture until Christ came and fulfilled the law.

By now, all you biblical "experts" should understand (1) babies inherit the sin
nature at conception; (2) they are not innocent in the eye of God; (3) they are
not accountable for childish "sins" until they reach the age of accountability or
commit their life to Christ. Abortion, when the health of the mother is threatened
does not commit a murder. REMEMBER, we will touch that subject next. By the
same token, abortion should not be a method of contraception. That is an entirely
different subject. When we save a baby, knowing the health of the mother could
result in death, is that not PREMEDITATED murder? I question the blind mind-set 
of conservative men who would choose to let their wife and children's mother die
to save an unborn child. 

Conservatives need to learn all the biblical facts about sin and Christianity
before they use their misinformation in news releases and speeches. Preachers
(called to service) must study endlessly to be able to teach scripture. The
airwaves are full of illiterate people who can't teach scripture because they know
little of it or about it. These people are very much like the "expert" who knows all
about surgery or crime detection. There is no short course for teaching scripture.
Do you pretenders not know God frowns upon apostate preaching? You may be
a winner with the public, and even many "Christians, but you're a loser with God.

Rev. Walbear